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PostSubject: Deus Oz New Sporty   Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:44 pm

hey Eel they've changed the logo on ya' !
http://www.deus.com.au/gallery/newblood-sportster/
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:01 pm

cool ... number plate mount wont be legal here, need to put a side mount on !!! haha Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:48 pm

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hey Eel they've changed the logo on ya' !
http://www.deus.com.au/gallery/newblood-sportster/

Haha.Yeah! Cool bike. Was in Auckland yesterday and had a poke around in Deus. Some cool bikes in there but wickedly expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:30 pm

29 grand Aussie! Now I know what to do with the 04 that I couldn't sell on Trademe Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:36 pm

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29 grand Aussie! Now I know what to do with the 04 that I couldn't sell on Trademe Laughing

DO IT
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:39 pm

Now you no what I am talking about,FUCK deus there bikes are shit and overpriced.Its been a long weekend a report to follow.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:16 pm

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Now you no what I am talking about,FUCK deus there bikes are shit and overpriced.Its been a long weekend a report to follow.

I knew that wasn't a good sign seeing your bike on the back of your Ute, pale
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:21 pm

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PAN/SHOVEL wrote:
Now you no what I am talking about,FUCK deus there bikes are shit and overpriced.Its been a long weekend a report to follow.

I knew that wasn't a good sign seeing your bike on the back of your Ute, pale

Deus bikes dont have to be carried on back of ute...?!...
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:51 pm

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Now you no what I am talking about,FUCK deus there bikes are shit and overpriced.Its been a long weekend a report to follow.

Take a deep breath Doug. Looking forward to the report.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:38 pm

Fuck brett the reason it was on my ute was so I didn't have to pay for a bike and ute ,just my ute it was still running fine
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:13 pm

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Fuck brett the reason it was on my ute was so I didn't have to pay for a bike and ute ,just my ute it was still running fine
Lovin it! Hope 2 meet uz at da show!
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:22 pm

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Fuck brett the reason it was on my ute was so I didn't have to pay for a bike and ute ,just my ute it was still running fine

glad to hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:11 am

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FUCK deus there bikes are shit and overpriced

You know, that kind of thinking is what keeps NZ small. Small in thinking, small in expansion, small in entrepreneurialism. Yes Deus (Shed5 in NZ) bikes are not cheap, & I dont like all the designs personally, but what they are doing is worthy of respect, rather than the 'tall poppy' syndrome that we kiwis are so well known for.
Anyway, if their bikes are so expensive, then that means when you sell your bobber, street tracker etc, that yours is going to be a very desirable price in comparison, so you should thank them.
Doug's shovel is a beautiful & extremely well designed & built bike. How much do you value that at Doug? (hypothetical question, dont need an actual valuation) All the hours in the build, the years of accumulated knowledge, the sweat: you wouldn't undervalue all that would you?
Well Deus don't undervalue what they do. And good on them. There's heaps of investment poured in there & it's part of a much bigger picture than just the price of their bikes. It's also promoting the bike culture; & until we all have our own big shop, cafe, warehouse, clothing range etc then why dont we just show a little more respect instead of acting like backyard cowboys?
As for the quality/standard/design of the bikes: Deus bikes are largely based on the Japanese bike building subculture which is already influencing bike builders world wide. And I don't see any quality issues with them.
If this pisses anyone off I dont really care, I think it needed to be said.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:41 pm

Okay brett you don't get it,that bike has the following things changed on it that I can see,seat,guard/t/lite rearsets,visor h/lite,paint,bars,red rims,indicators,16" fr rim,airfilter and probably a couple of pieces I missed.I had a quick look on trademe and you can get a 2005-2008 sporty from $8695.00-$9800.00 now I estimate those parts on that bike to be worth between $4000.00-6000.00 dollars (those storz rearsets would be worth big dollars) so say you got a sporty for $7500.00 and added the $6000.00 you get $13,500.00 with todays exchange rate that deus bike comes out at $38770.00nz minus the $13500.00 leaves $25270.00 oh yea better take out $5000.00 for labour and this leaves you with just over 20g.I could do a lot with 20g and its not tall poppy syndrome I just dont see the value in deus bikes,Hey if anbody wants me to build them a bike sort of like that give me a yell and it won't cost 38g
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:12 pm

PAN/SHOVEL wrote:
Fuck brett the reason it was on my ute was so I didn't have to pay for a bike and ute ,just my ute it was still running fine

Whoops sorry Doug, I just figured if the bike was OK you would have been riding it, I didn't realise you had taken the Ute down as well. My bad. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:17 pm

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Okay brett you don't get it,that bike has the following things changed on it that I can see,seat,guard/t/lite rearsets,visor h/lite,paint,bars,red rims,indicators,16" fr rim,airfilter and probably a couple of pieces I missed.I had a quick look on trademe and you can get a 2005-2008 sporty from $8695.00-$9800.00 now I estimate those parts on that bike to be worth between $4000.00-6000.00 dollars (those storz rearsets would be worth big dollars) so say you got a sporty for $7500.00 and added the $6000.00 you get $13,500.00 with todays exchange rate that deus bike comes out at $38770.00nz minus the $13500.00 leaves $25270.00 oh yea better take out $5000.00 for labour and this leaves you with just over 20g.I could do a lot with 20g and its not tall poppy syndrome I just dont see the value in deus bikes,Hey if anbody wants me to build them a bike sort of like that give me a yell and it won't cost 38g

Doug, Im not dumb, I know all that dude.
You are forgetting the whole ethos of the company; you are paying for the 'name'. It's a designer label.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Oz New Sporty   Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:36 am

this is more constructive than "F**k Deus" anywayz.
Doug your sums add up to over 100% markup. That is good business. (I'm sure there would be more expenses in there; you haven't factored in the building lease, & the labour is only about 50hours @ 100 an hour, I'd say there'd be more hours than that if you think about the paint prep, sourcing the parts, etc etc plus expense list would go on undoubtedly with stuff we haven't even thought of, website design, photography, publicity, advertising etc etc).
I realize now that my bone to pick is about the difference between bike building & business. Deus are doing both, as opposed to the builder who is doing his bike for himself.
Also, the bike becomes more than the sum of it's parts. It's now a 'Deus Special' & not just a Sporty with some bits changed & a paintjob. (Altho to us it's still a Sporty with bits changed & a paintjob).
It's all in the eye of the beholder. So Doug I think we are both right. Very Happy
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