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PostSubject: The Little Rosa Project   Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:32 pm

My bobber project...

Got it back to my place, after wheeling out of an overgrown backyard and onto a trailer. Managed to get the engine to turn over and idle. Seemed to stall straight away though when releasing the clutch and trying to get it moving...

Have taken seats and side covers off. Battery is fucked. Indicators not going, and don't think the headlight is either. Tires ok condition. Chain rusted as. Going to need a fair amount of refurb, in terms of wire brusing and replacing bolts with new ones that aren't rusted to shit.

Brett.. let me know what you think it's worth.














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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:52 pm

Put it up on the lift after I got home from work. Did a bit of work on it. Engine is ticking over better, gearbox seems to be going now. Got a bit more to strip down.. have it down to it's air filter and carb and will tidy those up Wednesday.

Found a few electrical faults, so will have to re-wire the whole thing.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:43 pm

keen on those bars then ?
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:43 pm

keen on those bars then ?
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:59 pm

that surface rust means more work...
I would say it would need to be under 1000 that's for sure; I would be goin for somewhere between 500 to 1000.
Just my opinion.
The carbs are the main thing that causes running issues on them; will need a good clean out.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:04 pm

Fevah wrote:
keen on those bars then ?

Yes keen, but wont buy them until I 've handed over some money for the bike end of next week (if we agree on the same price). I have a feeling he'll be taking whatever I offer, whether he likes it or not.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:43 pm

Drained petrol tank, letting it air out now before I fill back up



Very dirty air filter. Have cleaned it with warm water, bathroom cleaner, and vinegar combination. Bathroom cleaner helps break down low levels of oil and grease, vinegar works as a natural and mild fabric softener which keeps the filter plush and not crackly.





Is missing some hardware on the gear shift, so having to make parts and mod the bracket.




Clearing a thread and getting smooth again




While things are apart have been cleaning the rust as I pull them off.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:56 pm

Awesome. Nice to see another 250 rebel on here
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:11 pm

Cleaned up one of the brackets and such...

Just waiting on a machined part to get the shifter working again. May turn it into suicide shift with foot clutch. Was looking at Bretts and Montz and others online and I want to do something different!





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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:16 am

shoot, dont make it too tidy, he will want more money for it!

haha

doing well, nice progress pics

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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:25 am

The_Lone_Rider wrote:
Was looking at Bretts and Montz and others online and I want to do something different!
yeah be interesting to see what you come up with, I saw a thread on the rebel forum recently where someone put a turbo on one
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:24 pm

Current plan is to run struts like you did on the first 250 bobber, with a sissy bar running up, made out of an old drive chain off another bike.

Now leaning towards no paint on the bike, just bare metal with clear coat, although will have Little Rosa on the top of the tank, and a hand painted rose.


Suicide shifter may be a problem, as I'd need to work out a way to support it while keeping it functional.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:26 pm

Still waiting on a machined part. If it doesnt get done tomorrow at work by my shift engineer, I'll do it myself on saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:49 pm

The_Lone_Rider wrote:


Suicide shifter may be a problem, as I'd need to work out a way to support it while keeping it functional.

somebody on the rebel forum came up with a plan for one, I remember reading about it
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:40 pm

Yeah I seen it, and he had some problems with it.

If you look at the shaft the gear shifter attaches.. it's tiny and I wouldn't want a long rod or more hanging off it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:13 pm

so u r gonna put some struts like Mot's one?


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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:14 pm

gonna mod the existing seat, or make a pan yourself?
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:33 pm

Make my own seat pan. Should be easy I thinks.

Got a couple of questions...

Going through the service manual... this bike doesn't take an oil filter. However it says to remove the oil pump and clean the oil strainer.

Which means removing a crank case. Whats the pros and cons of this, as I'd prefer to re-use the gasket but my understanding is thats not a good idea, and best to put new ones in all the time.

Pretty ass design, having to change a gasket when you do an oil change.


Also, brett... what did u attach your fenders to? I was thinking of making brackets that slotted inside the axles between the heads and swing arm. However, I was thinking wouldn't it be possible for the fender to rotate on an axis having two parallel mount points?



Rust and shit all over the place!

Left shock is after I've got at it, right one is how it came

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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:52 pm

if the filter is like the 450, there's a bolt you take out under the crankcase to get at it. dunno bout the 250, someone on the rebel forum will know


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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:55 pm

I'm just going by what the service manual has. No mention of a filter.
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:36 am

The_Lone_Rider wrote:

Also, brett... what did u attach your fenders to? I was thinking of making brackets that slotted inside the axles between the heads and swing arm. However, I was thinking wouldn't it be possible for the fender to rotate on an axis having two parallel mount points?
on the 250 I used the BCB fender kit.
on the two 450's I did as per this pic, bolted thru the frame horns with the indicators, and used a bolt thru a piece of aluminium tube from the frame crosspiece under the seat, to a nyloc nut under the fender.




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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:15 am

Thats gonna be tricky... the fender I'm using is super low and skinny
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:43 am

The_Lone_Rider wrote:
the fender I'm using is super low and skinny

swingarm mounted then. some possibilities for your home made struts mounting:
some people weld tabs on swingarm and bolt to those.
some people drill into swingarm & attach.
some mount to the axle adjuster nuts on the end of the swingarm, between the 2 nuts, for this method you could: heat & twist the end of the strut piece you use (say flat stock) to right angle. some use round profile piece, & beat ends flat, make one of the flat ends at a right angle.

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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:40 am

I was thinking of grabbing some right angle metal stock (Shape: L ) from work and drill into the front of the swing arm under the seat, bolt the L bracket to that, and then drill again and rivet it to the fender.

Would be hidden, and the rear fender would appear strutless
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PostSubject: Re: The Little Rosa Project   Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:36 pm

The_Lone_Rider wrote:
I was thinking of grabbing some right angle metal stock (Shape: L ) from work and drill into the front of the swing arm under the seat, bolt the L bracket to that, and then drill again and rivet it to the fender.

Would be hidden, and the rear fender would appear strutless

yep. from what ive seen many people attach at the sides somewhere too, im sure you'll work it out so it's sturdy anyway
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